Path: bloom-beacon.mit.edu!eru.mt.luth.se!news.kth.se!sunic!trane.uninett.no!eunet.no!nuug!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!nctuccca.edu.tw!news.cc.nctu.edu.tw!news.csie.nctu.edu.tw!summer.nchu.edu.tw!cmtsai1 From: cmtsai1@summer.nchu.edu.tw (Chi-Ming Tsai) Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text.big5 Subject: Chinese BIG5 environment: FAQ of alt.chinese.text.big5 Date: 10 May 1994 16:27:43 GMT Organization: National Chung Hsing University Lines: 752 Message-ID: <2qoclv$eli@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> NNTP-Posting-Host: cmtsai1%@summer.nchu.edu.tw X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL0] Subject: Chinese BIG5 environment: FAQ of alt.chinese.text.big5 Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text.big5,alt.answers,news.answers Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Eng., Chiao Tung U., Taiwan, ROC Followup-To: alt.chinese.text.big5 Reply-To: chinese-faq@csie.nctu.edu.tw Expires: Wed, 25 May 1994 00:00:01 GMT Approved: news-answers-request@MIT.Edu Keywords: chinese, big5, faq Archive-name: chinese-text/big5-faq Last-modified: April 25, 1994 Version: 3.0 This article contains the answers to some Frequently Asked Questions often seen in alt.chinese.text.big5. It also contains some FAQ mailed to help@csie.nctu.edu.tw. We hope before you post or mail a question about alt.chinese.text.big5, please make sure that the answer is not already here. If you find this article doesn't include your questions or some answers of this articles are not complete, please e-mail to help@csie.nctu.edu.tw. We will try to help you. BIG-5 碼 中文環境 的 問 與 答 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Table of Contents <<<< [1] Where can I find the latest version of this FAQ ? [2] If you have trouble with this group, and you cannot find any solutions in this FAQ, how can you do ? [3] What's the differences between alt.chinese.text and alt.chinese.text.big5 ? [4] What should I know before I want to read alt.chinese.text.big5 ? [5] Do I need to crosspost my articles to both alt.chinese.text and alt.chinese.text.big5 ? [6] Where can I find most of the software mentioned here ? [7] How can I view articles in alt.chinese.text.big5 from UNIX hosts ? [8] What should I prepare if I want to input Chinese BIG5 code under UNIX environment ? [9] How can I make "cxterm" work in my system ? [10] How can I remotely display cxterm to my local X host if I don't have cxterm installed in my local host ? [11] How can I read/write Chinese BIG5 chars in PC ? [12] How can I read/write Chinese BIG5 chars via modem connection in PC? [13] How can I read/write Chinese BIG5 chars via NCSA Telnet utility in PC? [14] How can I read/write Chinese BIG5 chars via NCSA Telnet utility in Macintosh? [15] How can I utilize ChiRK to read BIG5 Chinese text ? [16] Why can't I read Chinese BIG5 mail in "ELM"? [17] Why can't I send out Chinese BIG5 mail ? [18] Is it possible to mail my article to alt.chinese.text.big5 ? [19] How can I read/write Chinese BIG5 code under GNU Emacs 19.XX ? [20] How can I read/write Chinese BIG5 code under vi ? [21] How can I read/write Chinese BIG5 code under joe editor ? [22] Where can I get the "talk", "screen", ... etc. which support Chinese BIG5 characters ? [23] Which gopher servers can I get Chinese BIG5 stuff from ? [24] Why can'n my gopher client display Chinese BIG5 directories ? [25] Can I view Chinese BIG 5 characters by GNU less utility ? [26] How can I write Chinese BIG5 code in IRC (Internet Relay Chat) environment ? [27] Is the MUD game support Chinese BIG5 code ? [28] How can I read alt.chinese.text.big5 offline ? Is there ftp site which archives the articles in alt.chinese.text.big5 ? [29] What should I notice if I use MS-KERMIT to read BIG Chinese word in my PC ? [30] Where are the Internet BBS servers in Taiwan ? [31] I know there are many good stuffs in BBS. Can I read these good articles by newsreader (NNTP) rather than register in BBS ? [32] Where can I buy Chinese BIG5 commercial products outsides Taiwan ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- [1] Where can I find the latest version of this FAQ ? a) The FAQ will be posted monthly in alt.chinese.text and alt.chinese.text.big5. The FAQ you can find in these two groups should be the lastest version. b) If you have ftp access, you can also get a fresh copy of this FAQ from : rtfm.mit.edu:/pub/usenet/news.answers/chinese-text/big5-faq ftp.csie.nctu.edu.tw:/pub/Chinese/chinese-text/big5-faq. [2] If you have troubles with this group, and you cannot find any solutions in this FAQ, how can you do ? Certainly, post your questions into alt.chinese.text or alt.chinese.text.big5 is the best way, we think. There are thousands of people reading these two group every day. They will share their experience to you whenever they've seen your problems. If you can hardly access these two groups, please mail your problems to help@csie.nctu.edu.tw. There will be people there trying to help you. [3] What's the differences between alt.chinese.text and alt.chinese.text.big5 ? Generally speaking, the contents of these two groups are the same. The difference between these two groups is the encoding method of Chinese characters. In alt.chinese.text, we usually use "HZ" protocol and "simplified form" Chinese chars, which is popular in mainland China and is assembled by two 7-bit ASCII characters. In alt.chinese.text.big5, we usually use "BIG5" character set and "complicated (traditional) form" Chinese chars, which is popular in Taiwan and is assembled by two 8-bit ASCII characters. To make consistency of contents between these two groups, there is a gateway program running in news.csie.nctu.edu.tw. In other words, if you post a "HZ" article into alt.chinese.text, you will find an another your BIG5 posing in alt.chinese.text.big5, and vice versa. Consequently, all you must keep in mind is that if you want to post "HZ" articles, you must and can just post them into alt.chinese.text; if you want to post "BIG5" articles, you must and can just post them into alt.chinese.text.big5. If you post "HZ"'s into alt.chinese.text.big5 or post "BIG5"'s into alt.chinese.text, the gateway program in news.csie.nctu.edu.tw will ignore them. [4] What should I know before I want to read alt.chinese.text.big5 ? The most important thing you must know is that the BIG5 is a 8-bit protocol. In other words, before you want to access the a.c.t.b group or you want to send out BIG5 packets, please make sure your local network and/or your "parent" network is 8-bit clean. Besides, whether the news server program can handle the 8-bit characters or not is also important. If you find it's the problem of news server, please argue it with that news administrator; or you may consider to change to another news server. [5] Do I need to crosspost my articles to both alt.chinese.text and alt.chinese.text.big5 ? No, you needn't and cannot. There is a gateway program running in news.csie.nctu.edu.tw to ensure the contents' consistency between these two groups. If you post a article to the both groups, you will see duplicate articles in a.c.t and a.c.t.b. Generally, if your articles contain GB code, please post those articles into alt.chinese.text; if your articles contain BIG5 code, please post them to alt.chinese.text.big5. [6] Where can I find most of the software mentioned here ? If there is no special indication, almost all the software mentioned here can be got from the following sites : ifcss.org[129.107.1.155]:/software NCTUCCCA.edu.tw[140.111.3.21]:/Chinese ftp.csie.nctu.edu.tw[140.113.17.166]:/pub/Chinese [7] How can I view articles in alt.chinese.text.big5 from UNIX hosts ? If you are sure that your hosts can accept 8-bit data packet, then : a) In X-windows, "cxterm" is the best utility to emulate Chinese BIG5 environment. b) In PC or Mac, you must run a 8-bit terminal emulator under a Chinese BIG5 system. [8] What should I prepare if I want to input Chinese BIG5 code under UNIX environment ? In BSD-like system, you must set : "stty pass8" In SYSV-like system, you must set : "stty -istrip -cs8" If the utilities you are using have utilized the "setlocale" function, you can set the following environment variable : In SunOS and Solaris : "setenv LC_CTYPE iso_8859_1" In IBM AIX 3.2.X[3.1.X ?] : set your language environment to those which use 8-bit char set (such as ISO8859-?). You also can change your environment variable "LANG" to an appropriate one. (such as "En_US"). SGI IRIX 4.X : "setenv LC_CTYPE english.iso88591" HP-UX : "setenv LC_CTYPE english.iso88591" or "setenv LC_CTYPE american.iso88591" or "setenv LC_CTYPE chinese-t.big5" Others : Try to "man setlocale" for details or ask the vendors how to re-define the international language environment. [9] How can I make "cxterm" work in my system ? Cxterm is a good terminal emulator for BIG 5 environment. If your cxterm has problems, please reference the following procedures step by step. a) Get the source of cxterm. You can get it from cs.purdue.edu:/pub/ygz ifcss.org:/software/unix/X-Window ftp.csie.nctu.edu.tw:/pub/Chinese/x-win Remember that cxterm-11.4.X.tar.Z is for X11 R4 base system, whereas cxterm-11.5.X.tar.Z is for X11 R5 base system. So before you want to install cxterm, you must confirm that whether your X is R4 or R5. (eg. Openwin 3.0 is R4 base). b) look at subdirectory "cxterm-platforms" under the above ftp site . There are some patches for different OSs. ( Solaris's patch is only available in ftp.csie.nctu.edu.tw). c) Compile and install cxterm. d) Retrieve BIG 5 fonts and Chinese input dictionaries. You can also get some existed examples from (a)'s ftp sites. But if you prefer ETen Chinese system (a popular PC Chinese system in Taiwan), there are many good stuff in ftp.csie.nctu.edu.tw:/pub/Chinese/x-win. e) Decide under which directory you want to put all the Chinese input dictionaries. Convert .tit files to .cit files. f) Convert all .bdf fonts' file to which your system accept.( please try to look up man page of "bdftosnf", "bdftopcf", "convertfont" ..... etc.) Generally, X11R5 needs ".pcf" files, X11R4 needs ".snf" files, X11/NeWS (Openwin) needs ".fb" or ".fm" files, and some systems need these font files to be compressed. g) Decide under which directory you want to put all the Chinese fonts. In that directory, you should run "mkfontdir ". In your .xinitrc, you should add "xset +fp ". To ensure your Chinese fonts can be searched, you may run "xlsfonts". h) In your resource file of xterm (eg. ~/XTerm), add the following lines : ------------------------------------ cxterm*HanziEncoding: BIG5 cxterm*hanziInputDir: cxterm*HanziFont: cxterm*Font: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Remember you can also override the above settings by giving command line options of cxterm. i) If you want to input Chinese chars, you may need to set up different key-binding for different input methods in your resource file of xterm. Please refer to man page of "cxterm" for detail. the following is an example : ---------------------------------------------- cxterm*VT100.Translations: #override \ F1: switch-HZ-mode(ASCII) \n\ F2: switch-HZ-mode(IC) \n\ Shift F3: switch-HZ-mode(TONEPY) \n\ ~Shift F3: switch-HZ-mode(PY-b5) \n\ Shift F4: switch-HZ-mode(PY) \n\ ------------------------------------------------------------------- j) In X-windows environment, run "cxterm". [10] How can I remotely display cxterm in my local X host if I don't have cxterm installed in my local host ? First of all, you must confirm the cxterm resides in remote machine can work well. Second, you must have X-server running in your local machine. Third, reference (d),(f),(g) of question [9]. Setup all fonts needed in your local machine. Remember you must ensure that the fonts you want to use can be searched by your X-server(local machine) or font server. And the last, open your local X access control, and run "cxterm -d :0" Hope you can use the cxterm now.... [11] How can I read/write Chinese BIG5 chars in PC ? Of course you must run Chinese system in advance. There are many popular commercial products for PC, such as ETen, HAN, KC, C-Windows ...etc. All this software can be bought from Taiwan and Hong Kong. By the way, KC system is distributed freely among TANet (Taiwan Academic Network), everyone in Taiwan can get a copy from moers2.edu.tw:/chinese-pub/chinese-sys/kc. [12] How can I read/write Chinese BIG5 chars via modem connection in PC? First of all, you must confirm that your terminal emulater and modem are set up 8-bit clean. Load BIG5 Chinese system in PC. Most of the problems that you can't read/write Chinese BIG5 chars through modem connection are due to your host system configuration. In Taiwan, our terminal servers with tty service from tel lines are set to 8-bits manually. But as we known, the setup in UNIX by defaults is to pass 7-bits. So, if you have already BIG5 Chinese system installed, but can't view BIG5 code, you must discuss it with your system administrator to persuade them to set 8-bit transfer in the tty line. ( /etc/gettytab, and /etc/ttytab for SunOS) [13] How can I read/write Chinese BIG5 chars via NCSA Telnet utility in PC? Load BIG5 Chinese system in PC. You must use 8-bits clean telnet. Try to get it from : NCTUCCCA.edu.tw:/Chinese/DOS/NCTU-Telnet ftp.csie.nctu.edu.tw:/pub/msdos/NCSA moers2.ecu.tw:/chinese-pub/ncsa/{ncu,nctu,itri,iii}. Or use "CUTCP" (an modified NCSA Telnet), in which only rlogin is 8-bits clean. The NCTU's version is highly recommended because it contains many other enhanced functions besides the 8-bit clean. The source code of NCTU's version is also available in above FTP sites for reseachers. [14] How can I read/write Chinese BIG5 chars via NCSA Telnet utility in Macintosh? Please get a modified 8-bit binary code from imftp.mgt.ncu.edu.tw[140.115.83.90]:/pub/chinese/Telnet2.5c.sea.bin ftp.csie.nctu.edu.tw:/pub/Chinese/Mac [15] How can I utilize ChiRK to read BIG5 Chinese text ? ChiRK stands for "CHInese Reader on teKtronics compatible graphics terminals". Now ChiRK 1.2a has been tested and works without any ( yet) problem on following terminals: Tektronics 4010/4014; GraphOn 225, 230, 140; DEC VT240, VT330/340; XTerm; Tektool on SunView; EM4105 on IBM-PC; VersaTerm-Pro on Macintosh, etc. And it should work on any other type of Tek compatible terminal with few, if any, lines of the codes changed. For BIG5 characters, there is only one bitmap available (chinese.16). ChiRK is available from ifcss.org:/software/unix/viewer/ChiRK-*.tar.Z, please refer to its installation guild for detail. [16] Why can't I read Chinese BIG5 mail in "ELM"? Please reference Question [8] at first. And then please check your ELM's configuration in installation. If you compile in "MIME" option, the "character set" should be "ISO-8859-1", and the "Content-Transfer-Encoding" should be 8-bit. For ELM 2.4 PL23 or later, you can define "charset" to "ISO-8859-1", "displaycharset" to "ISO-8859-1", and "textencoding" to "8bit", in your elmrc file. [17] Why can't I send out Chinese BIG5 mail ? Please check Question [4] to see if you meet the requirement. Then you must ensure that your MUA (Mail User Agent, eg. /bin/mail, elm) and MTA (Mail Transport agent, eg. sendmail) won't strip out the 8th bit. If your host will deliver outgoing mail to a mailing relay host, you must also ensure that your relay host accept 8-bit mail and won't strip out 8th bit. If unfortunately you find out you cannot send 8-bit mail, you may want to try "uuencode/uudecode" mail. Please consult manual page by "man uuencode" and "man uudecode". [18] Is it possible to mail my article to alt.chinese.text.big5 ? Yes. you can mail your articles to alt.chinese.text.big5@usenet.csie.nctu.edu.tw. But you must confirm that you can send out 8-bit mail in advance. Please refer to [17]. [19] How can I read/write Chinese BIG5 code under GNU Emacs 19.XX ? 1. In your ~/.emacs, including : (set-input-mode (car (current-input-mode)) (nth 1 (current-input-mode)) 0) Then your emacs will recognize 8-bit input. 2. To let emacs display 8-bit characters, type the following command in emacs : M-x standard-display-european [20] How can I read/write Chinese BIG5 code under vi ? Originally vi can accept 8-bit characters. If you want to use original vi to write Chinese BIG5 chars, you'd better refer to [8] to set proper LC_CTYPE environment variable. But you may have trouble with BIG5 2-byte codes. "celvis" is a modified version and a good substitute for "vi" in Chinese BIG5 environment. [21] How can I read/write Chinese BIG5 code under joe editor ? joe is a popular WordStar-like editor in UNIX. You can get it from ftp.csie.nctu.edu.tw:/pub/Chinese/unix/joe. To enable joe can accept 8-bit chars, you must include "-asis" option in your ".joerc" file. [22] Where can I get the "talk", "screen", ... etc. which support Chinese BIG5 characters ? There are some modified sources which you can find under ftp.csie.nctu.edu.tw:/pub/Chinese/unix. [23] Which gopher servers can I get Chinese BIG5 stuff from ? telnet gopher.csie.nctu.edu.tw 4270 or telnet gopher.ccu.edu.tw telnet cc.nsysu.edu.tw , with login name : "gopher". or you can use gopher client utility to connect the above servers directly. eg. "gopher gopher.csie.nctu.edu.tw" [24] Why can't my gopher client display Chinese BIG5 directories ? If you are in BSD system, you must re-compile your gopher client program with SYSV curses library. For example, in SunOS, use : CC=/usr/5bin/cc CFLAGS=-I/usr/5include LDFLAGS=-L/usr/5lib -lcurses -ltermcap In gopher.c, add #include In gopher.c, after the line setlocale(LC_ALL,""); add setlocale(LC_CTYPE, "iso_8859_1"); And remember change your PAGER to "cless", "more", or "pg", which won't strip out 8th bit. [25] Can I view Chinese BIG 5 characters by GNU less utility ? "less" is a more powerful pager than "more". If you want to view 8-bit characters in "less", you must have the following environmental variable be set at first: setenv LESSCHARSET latin1 or LESSCHARSET=latin11 [26] How can I write Chinese BIG5 code in IRC (Internet Relay Chat) environment ? You can get the lastest version of IRC client from nic.funet.fi:/pub/unix/irc/ircII and put the following line in ~/.ircrc /set translation LATIN_1 If you want to set system's default to 8-bit, you must include the above setting in $IRCII_LIBRARY/script/local. [27] Is the MUD support Chinese BIG5 code ? * What is a MUD? A MUD (Multiple User Dimension, Multiple User Dungeon, or Multiple User Dialogue) is a computer program which users can log into and explore. Each user takes control of a computerized persona/avatar/incarnation/ character. You can walk around, chat with other characters, explore dangerous monster-infested areas, solve puzzles, and even create your very own rooms, descriptions and items. You can also get lost or confused if you jump right in, so be sure to read MUD's document before starting. * What is a Chinese(BIG5) MUD? There are two definitions, they are: (1) a MUD which can receive Chinese(BIG5) messages and send Chinese(BIG5) messages. (2) Including (1), a Chinese(BIG5) MUD which enable Chinese(BIG5) interface which you can find every message becomes Chinese(BIG5) from English. * How to use a Chinese(BIG5) MUD? A Chinese(BIG5) MUD is the same as an English MUD, the difference is a Chinese(BIG5) MUD can receive and show Chinese(BIG5) characters just like Chinese(BIG5) talk. If you telnet from a workstation with UNIX system, and under a Chinese (BIG5) system. You can type Chinese BIG5 code and see Chinese BIG5 characters directly for you are under [stty pass8]. If you telnet from PC, first, you must make sure your telnet software can transmit 8-bit characters. Second, your telnet must be under a Chinese(BIG5) Environment. If you telnet from UNIX on workstation, and you telnet to workstation by a PC, then you have to use 8-bit telnet software on PC under Chinese(BIG5) Environment, and set stty pass8 in your account on workstation. * Where are Chinese(BIG5) MUDs? The following are available sites of definition (1) of Chinese(BIG5) MUD : telnet ccsun44.csie.nctu.edu.tw 4040 (140.113.17.168 4040) telnet ccnet1.ntu.edu.tw 3000 (140.112.2.196 3000) telnet irix.me.ncu.edu.tw 4000 (140.115.65.10 4000) The following are available sites of definition (2) of Chinese(BIG5) MUD : telnet ccsun44.csie.nctu.edu.tw 1234 (140.113.17.168 1234) telnet cissun12.cis.nctu.edu.tw 8000 (140.113.23.32 8000) [28] How can I read alt.chinese.text.big5 offline ? Is there ftp site which archives the articles in alt.chinese.text.big5 ? If your usenet sites haven't carried alt.chinese.text.big5 or your server can't be 8-bits clean, you can try to read them off-line via anonymous FTP service. Try anonymous ftp to ftp.csie.nctu.edu.tw:/pub/Chinese/chinese-text/big5. All files are in mail folder digest form. You can read them by many ways: 1). by mail reader for example, uncompress Sep-1.Z elm -f Sep-1 or mail -f Sep-1 2). Convert them to QWK format and read them by any QWK readers in your PC. To convert to QWK format, you can get uqwk and some qwk readers in ftp.csie.nctu.edu.tw:/pub/unix/uqwk. If you can't ftp access to our ftp server, you can try BITFTP or ftp-mail. FTPMAIL FTPMAIL is a mail server available to anyone who can send and receive electronic mail to and from Internet sites. This includes most workstations that have an e-mail connec- tion to the outside world, and CompuServe users. You do not need to be directly on the Internet. Here's how to do it. You send mail to ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com. In the message body, give the name of the anonymous FTP host and the FTP commands you want to run. The server will run anonymous FTP for you and mail the files back to you. To get a complete help file, send a message with no subject and the single word "help" in the body. The following is an example mail session that should get you a listing of the files in the selected directory and the file Sep-1.Z. The listing is useful in case there are other files you may be interested in. % mail ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com Subject: reply alan@ora.com (where you want files mailed) connect ftp.csie.nctu.edu.tw cd /pub/Chinese/chinese-text/big5 dir binary uuencode (or btoa if you have it) get Sep-1.Z quit % A signature at the end of the message is acceptable as long as it appears after "quit." All retrieved files will be split into 60KB chunks and mailed to you. You then remove the mail headers and con- catenate them into one file, and then uudecode or atob it. Once you've got the desired distribution, extract the files from it by following the directions under FTP. BITFTP BITFTP is a mail server for BITNET users. You send it elec- tronic mail messages requesting files, and it sends you back the files by electronic mail. BITFTP currently serves only users who send it mail from nodes that are directly on BIT- NET, EARN, or NetNorth. BITFTP is a public service of Princeton University. Here's how it works. To use BITFTP, send mail containing your FTP commands to BITFTP@PUCC. For a complete help file, send HELP as the message body. The following is the message body you should send to BITFTP: FTP ftp.csie.nctu.edu.tw NETDATA USER anonymous PASS your Internet e-mail address (not your bitnet address) CD /pub/Chinese/chinese-text/big5 DIR BINARY GET Sep-1.Z QUIT Once you've got the desired distribution, extract the files from it by following the directions under FTP. Questions about BITFTP can be directed to MAINT@PUCC on BIT- NET. [29] What should I notice if I use KERMIT to read BIG Chinese word in my PC ? The following is the way to use Chinese system with Kermit 3.13: 1. Add "DEVICE=C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS" in your "config.sys". 2. Add the following commands in your "mscustom.ini": set port 2 ; modify when needed set term none set term character-set trans set term display 8 set term control 8 set parity none. [30] Where are the Internet BBS servers in Taiwan ? There are more and more BBS servers open in Taiwan. The following is list of some famous BBS servers in Taiwan. BBS server's address login name Site ------------------------------------------------------------------------- * bbs.csie.nctu.edu.tw (140.113.17.154) bbs Dep CSIE, NCTU * bbs.cis.nctu.edu.tw (140.113.23.3) bbs Dep CIS, NCTU * alab01.ee.nctu.edu.tw (140.113.218.1) bbs Dep EE, NCTU * bbs.nctu.edu.tw (140.113.250.1) bbs CC, NCTU bbs.ntu.edu.tw (140.112.8.49) bbs CC, NTU * mic.ee.ntu.edu.tw (140.112.18.32) bbs Dep EE, NTU * sunserv.cse.ttit.edu.tw (140.129.25.100) bbs Dep CSIE, TTIT * bbs.mgt.ncu.edu.tw (140.115.83.240) bbs Dep IM, NCU ee06.ee.ncu.edu.tw (140.115.70.18) bbs Dep EE, NCU * bbs.ee.nthu.edu.tw (140.114.29.100) bbs Dep EE, NTHU * wsn7.iecs.fcu.edu.tw (140.134.24.22) bbs Dep CS, FCU * bbs.nchu.edu.tw (140.120.1.5) bbs CC, NCHU gopher.ncku.edu.tw (140.116.2.12) bbs CC, NCKU * vlsi1.iie.ncku.edu.tw (140.116.82.7) bbs Dep CS, NCKU bbs.nsysu.edu.tw (140.117.11.1) bbs CC, NSYSU ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ^ |_______ '*' imply this server exchanges articles to other BBS servers. [31] I know there are many good stuffs in BBS. Can I read these good articles by news reader (NNTP) rather than register in BBS ? Yes. Almost all BBS boards now can be found in tw.bbs.* hierarchy in USENET system of Taiwan. Unfortunately the tw.bbs.* hierarchy doesn't export to sites other than Taiwan area. Therefore if you want to read BBS articles via news reader, you must find one news server in Taiwan at first. The following is some well-known news servers in Taiwan : bunny.ntu.edu.tw (140.112.2.197) news.csie.nctu.edu.tw (140.113.17.159) ccnews.nctu.edu.tw (140.113.5.199) You can fisrt set the "NNTPSERVER" environmental variable to one of the above and select "tw.bbs.*" newsgroups to read. Recommended news readers are tin V1.2 PL0 or later, trn 3.0 or later. [32] Where can I buy Chinese BIG5 commercial products outsides Taiwan ? The following is a list of dealers from which you can purchase some popular Chinese BIG5 products outsides Taiwan. Thanks ETen Information System CO. LTD. for supporting this list. West Amercia CHASE Computer Co. 210 E. Main St. Alhambra, CA 91801 U.S.A Tel: 818-300-8666 Fax: 818-300-8693 Advanced Hi-Tech Corp. 2221 Rosecrans Ave., #203 El Segundo, CA 90245 U.S.A. Tel: 213-643-7571 Fax: 213-643-7572 East Amercia ABEST Internatonal Inc. 83-09 Northern Blvd. Jackson Heights NY 11372 U.S.A. Tel: 718-507-8485/0411 Fax: 718-507-7795 Canada (Toronto) MIT Computer Supplies Co., Ltd. 40 Shields Court, Unit 1 & 2 Markham Ontario L3R OM5 Canada Tel: 416-946-0908 Fax: 416-946-8749 Hong Kong Universal Electronics Trading Co. 15/F., Sincere Insurance Bldg., 6 Hennessy Rd. Wanchai Hong Kong Tel: 529-4433 Fax: 529-2308 Singapore ETen Information System (S) Pte. Ltd. 2, Soon Wing Road, #04-01/02, Soon Wing Industrial Building Singapore 1334 Tel: 741-0155 Fax: 741-4732 Malaysia ETen Information Consultant Service Centre 56-B, 2nd Flr. Jalan Sultan Ismail, 50250 Kuala Lumpur Malaysia Tel: 3-242-4236 Fax: 3-241-1557 Korea KANAM Electronics Co., Ltd. 4th Floor Samboo Building 48-14, Shinwol 3-Dong, Yangchon-ku, seoul 158-095 Korea Tel: 2-604-9138 Fax: 2-690-3258 ==== The End ================================================================= Computer Center Department of Computer Science and Information Engineering National Chiao Tung University HsinChu, Taiwan, 300